I live in a suburb of Pittsburgh and I recently attended an "Open Session" of Van Enterprises. What follows is a summation of my experience.
I was called to return for a follow up visit but first warned that there would be costs starting at $150.00 for brochures.
"Quote 1": You can pay this with a Check, Money Order, Credit Card, or Post Dated Check if you don't have the money right now.
This triggered the first red flag for me. Someone who didn't know any thing about me is giving me an option that could be entirely irrelevant.
So I return for the follow up visit having done my homework on this company find fellow complains on this very page as well as other Yahoo! pages.
Below are some questions and answers:
Q: How many people do you have working in your Pittsburgh office?
Q: Did you know that there is some bad information about your company online?
A: Yes I have seen those statements on Yahoo from some lunaticts who have claimed to have followed me to the river and other nonsense.
Now this is where the conversation changed I am assuming he decided that I had already made up my mind. He started to get quite rude with me, first by accusing me of having a very poor attitude. Next he told me that his company didn't want my money.
After some more rude statements from him I tried to steer the conversation back to the money and what I was actually buying.
Q: Can you show me what I am receiving for the $150.00 cost?
A: Yes we will talk about this at a later time more but you will get some flyers that we will circulate for you...(dodge).
Q: So you don't have anything now to give me?
After this next disccusion things didn't go very well and he asked me to leave.
You stated in the first meeting that your company doesn't do anything with the internet because there isn't anything good that comes from it.
Q: Why do you feel there is no benefit from the internet? If not to publicly advertise surely to offer a secure, inexpensive, and efficient way to show client profiles to potential buyers?
A: All of out customers don't want to be on the internet they have families they don't want their pictures on some web site.
I don't think you understand the internet is capable of security this is how banks and credit cards are able to function through it.
Q: Don't you think the internet would reduce your costs since you wouldn't have to snail mail client profiles to potential buyers?
A: It doesn't matter we have been doing this for 35 years what do you think we did before the internet? The Internet is bullshit there is nothing good that comes from it and we will have no part in it!!
Once my mind fully processed the statement...
"The Internet Is Bullshit..."
I realized I wasn't dealing with any reasonable person. I decided I would finish up this conversation with two snide remarks...
Q: Just so you know I work for an internet startup company and we make millions of dollars a year in revenue. So does that make us bullshit too?
Let's make a bet Sir. I will bet you that if I post my experience online and others do the same this "Bullshit" that you speak of may start to gum up your little operation your have going.
At that point he walked back into his room and I left the hotel.
Hopefully this will inform anyone thinking of investing in such a outdated and narrow minded "Company" if you would even call it that.
So in true internet fashion I spent the $9.99 to buy the domain
I will link this to a free blog where everyone can share their experiences.
Let this company see how powerful this "Bullshit" really is.